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Rachmaninov / Saint-Saëns: Piano Concertos No. 2 - Rubinstein / Ormandy

Rachmaninov / Saint-Saëns: Piano Concertos No. 2 - Rubinstein / Ormandy

Dutton  CDLX 7336

Stereo/Multichannel Hybrid

Classical - Orchestral


Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto No. 2
Saint-Saëns: Piano Concerto No. 2
Falla: Nights in the Gardens of Spain

Artur Rubinstein (piano)
The Philhadelphia Orchestra
Eugene Ormandy (conductor)

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Comment by hiredfox - January 25, 2017 (1 of 8)

I have the LP of this work but it is in Mono. Was there a stereo version? Surely not a stereo or mch SACD from a mono source.... ?

More to the point why have Dutton decided to launch re-treads after only recently entering the SACD fray? We have seen what happened to Praga after all.

Lots of questions.

Buying this disc on spec seems way beyond an act of faith to me. If anybody is offered a freebie to review please post your reaction soonest.

Comment by Credo - January 25, 2017 (2 of 8)

According to the Dutton website blog:

On this occasion we have delved into the archives of CBS and RCA for five new reissues on the Dutton Epoch label, each featuring some of classical music’s most eminent artists. Recorded in the early and mid-1970s, these albums were issued originally in discrete four-channel (quadraphonic) sound. And like the SACD-quadraphonic reissues on Epoch sister-label Vocalion, these SACD reissues include both the quadraphonic and stereo recordings in high-resolution transfers alongside the stereo recording in regular 16-bit, 44.1-khz CD sound.....
Michael J. Dutton has transferred the music exquisitely from the stereo and quadraphonic analogue masters, which has ensured that full justice is done to the superb quality of the original recordings.

Comment by john hunter - January 29, 2017 (3 of 8)

I have a few of these releases which are very well remastered by Mr Dutton.
A welcome series of which I hope there is more.

Comment by ubertrout - February 6, 2017 (4 of 8)

As others have said, these were RCA Quadraphonic releases from the early 70s. Rubinstein was getting on in years by the time these were made, and these were not his first recording, but they're still justly treasured in my opinion. Excited to hear this.

Comment by Gilbert Burnett - February 9, 2017 (5 of 8)

This batch of 1970's quadraphonic recordings from RCA and CBS (Columbia) are very welcome and are as important as the Phillips and DG offerings from Pentatone. Dutton are to be commended for making these available to us. I have bought three so far. The julian Bream, Rheinberger and Stokowski. The remastering is, on the whole very well done. The Bream disc is a real gem and has some of the best sounding analogue to DSD transfers I have heard. It is exceptionally clear, detailed and analogue sounding. I think the original recordings (especially from CBS/Columbia) were perhaps a little less subtle than the Phillips/DG ones (or is it in the re-mixing?). My set-up is balanced for 5 channel SACD so may not be ideal but imaging is very good though there is lots coming from the surround channels. In fact it is maybe better than some 5.1 recordings I own. If quad could have been offered back then in a more successful format than LP it may have succeeded. I look forward to future releases and hope they will also be on SACD. Where are the EMI quad recordings?

Comment by hiredfox - February 10, 2017 (6 of 8)

Dutton are new to this game of re-treads and it shows. Nowhere near the standard set by Pentatone in their RQR series, in stereo this one sounds muddy & congested. Maybe down to source material. Dutton seem to have ignored my request for recording data; sources, recording type and so on.

I am not unhappy to have this disc in our collection as it is good to have a small archive of Rubinstein's performances on SACD.

Comment by ubertrout - February 12, 2017 (7 of 8)

@hiredfox you got your copy already? I can't comment because I haven't, but Dutton Vocalion has been pretty emphatic that they're working with the original master tapes for the quad recordings, and even the original multitrack stems in a few places (the Stokowski Wagner excerpts and the Rosza disc). They did a blog post about the subject here: https://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/dutton-epoch-quadraphonic-sacd-releases-january-2017/. I don't understand the skepticism.

Comment by hiredfox - February 14, 2017 (8 of 8)

Hi. Yes, I do have a copy from the Amazon's UK link - supplied by English Postbox and delivered the day after my order was placed.

For a variety of reasons we (incl. Mrs hiredfox!) have had no time for a more concentrated listening session and my earlier remarks reflected an initial impression.

Where audiophilia is concerned it helps tremendously to have everyone in the household singing from the same hymn-sheet!