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Dvořák: Symphony No. 9 - Kertész

Dvořák: Symphony No. 9 - Kertész

Stereo Sound  SSHRS 003-004

Stereo Single Layer

Classical - Orchestral


Dvořák: Symphony No. 9

Wiener Philharmoniker
István Kertész (conductor)

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Comment by Stadlbauer Dietmar - December 28, 2016 (1 of 19)

This Set contains 2 CD's. One in SACD and the other one is a normal CD. Can anybody say why I have to order the 2CD-set for wanting the SACD only. Very strange!

Comment by hiredfox - January 1, 2017 (2 of 19)

Can you tell us please where you bought this disc as no links are given. Is the SACD recorded in DSD?

Comment by Mark Werlin - January 1, 2017 (3 of 19)

hiredfox:

In answer to your first question: the Kertesz Dvorak SACD can be ordered from http://store.stereosound.co.jp -- change the display language to English and enjoy the translations! (I've never ordered from Stereo Sound, only from CDJapan, so this is not a recommendation.)

As to your second question... a snare for the unwary. I'm old enough to have read about Kertesz' death at the time it happened.

Comment by hiredfox - January 3, 2017 (4 of 19)

Thanks Mark, I haven't tracked it down yet on either Japanese site so any other helpful clues would be welcome. I think quite a few of us were around when Kertesz was in his pomp and we looked forward to new releases!

If Stephen happens to be tuned in, any leads Stephen?

Comment by Mark Werlin - January 3, 2017 (5 of 19)

hiredfox, I just checked four US audiophile disc distributors. None carry the Stereo Sound label. Here is the direct link to the Kertesz Dvorak SACD at the label's site in Japan:

http://store.stereosound.co.jp/products/detail.php?product_id=2458

The Esoteric SACD of this title is out of print and out of any sane music lover's price range.

Comment by hiredfox - January 4, 2017 (6 of 19)

Thanks Mark, appreciate it very much.

Comment by Stadlbauer Dietmar - June 8, 2017 (7 of 19)

Yes it is a DSD-recording, so it is named on the Label-print. I ordered it directly from the Stereo-Sound Homepage. It was very difficult to order because of changing the japanese language in english language, before this I "googled" the SSHRR-003/004 number to get a link to the Homepage. I don't know about the sound-Quality of the Esoteric-SACD, so I can not compare. But for me the Sound is very o.k. but not so good as I expected.
greetings
Stadlbauer Dietmar from Austria

Comment by William Hecht - June 9, 2017 (8 of 19)

As John pointed out earlier in the thread, if somewhat cryptically, Kertesz died in 1973. This is not a DSD recording, it's an analog recording converted into DSD in order to make a SACD. We seem to go round on this subject and similar issues such as 24/96 masters of original analog recordings with some regularity, and I suppose we'll continue to do so as long as AP and Universal Japan, etc. keep on reissuing old recordings, many of them of no particular virtue (viz. the HvK "Adagio" album, you've got to be kidding me, baroque music for those in need of a sleeping aid).

Comment by Adrian Quanjer - June 21, 2017 (9 of 19)

Couldn't agree more, Bill.

For those who collect yesteryears memories, I wonder if they shouldn’t opt for the original (if still available). Has anyone any experience with so called DSD reissues in direct comparison with the originals? Is the extra money really worth it?
If Hi-res is what you want, I once had an excellent stereo LP of the same with the London Symphony, which is now available as part of a recent complete limited edition Blu-Ray audio set at a giveaway price (Dvořák: Symphonies 1-9 - Kertész). Decca recordings were pretty good in those days. But as always: tampering does not guarantee successful results.

Comment by Mark Werlin - June 22, 2017 (10 of 19)

In response to Adrian's question about SACD versions of Decca's classic titles:

I own the Esoteric SACD Mozart: Piano Concertos 20 & 27 - Curzon, Britten and a Decca LP of the same recording. Tower Universal has released an SACD of the Curzon/Britten Mozart concertos in their current series, which also includes the subject Kertesz recording.

To my ears, the Esoteric SACD presents the original analogue source recording as well or better than the Decca LP. For SACD enthusiasts who do not own a high-quality analogue rig and original Decca LPs or expensive remastered LPs from Speaker's Corner, SACDs from Tower Universal and from Analogue Productions may well be a good investment. The 24/96 CD series of Decca recordings are now out of print and becoming collectible. The 24/96 CD version of the Mozart piano concertos did not sound nearly as pleasing as the Esoteric SACD. Nevertheless, those hi-res digital masters could be issued on Blu-Ray (and some already have been, as Adrian mentions) or as downloads.

Let's hope that Analogue Productions can license, transfer and move through the manufacturing backlog a good selection of Decca recordings.

Comment by sancho santos - March 20, 2019 (11 of 19)

Sounds better than the Esoteric version. Recommended.
He was just sold out................

Comment by Hui Zhu - June 11, 2019 (12 of 19)

Just a heads up, I received email from Steoro Sound that this SACD is re-stocked, for whoever is interested.

Comment by hiredfox - June 14, 2019 (13 of 19)

Could you provide a link to their website please as I cannot locate it even through Google Search

Comment by Adrian Quanjer - June 17, 2019 (14 of 19)

John, try this one: https://www.stereosound-intlstore.jp/product-list/2

Comment by hiredfox - June 17, 2019 (15 of 19)

Thanks Adrian. Google seem unable to find them and this site no longer provides website links.

Comment by Adrian Quanjer - June 17, 2019 (16 of 19)

just copy the link provided in my message and paste it in your browser.(please note that in HZ'S message stereo is misspelled)

Comment by DYB - June 18, 2019 (17 of 19)

I bought this issue (do not have Esoteric's so can't compare), but the performance and sound are spectacular. I much prefer this Kertesz Dvorak 9 to the LSO performance. My issue with the LSO cycle as a whole is how bright the sound is, it gets tiring. Whether it's an LSO problem or a Decca problem, I don't know. This Vienna version of the 9th is much warmer as far as sound, and the performance I find is more exciting.

Comment by hiredfox - June 19, 2019 (18 of 19)

This recording was released by Esoteric some years ago, how does this new re-mastering weigh up against the Esoteric version?

Comment by breydon_music - June 20, 2019 (19 of 19)

I had the Esoteric issue for quite a few years, but this one knocks it out of the park - it is a marvellous remaster by Classic Sound which (if like me you are old enough to remember!) really captures the Decca vinyl sound of the period. It is expensive but if you care about this performance I think you will be thrilled. This link will take you to an English version of their site which lists the SACD's they have produced and which are still available - https://www.stereosound-intlstore.jp/product-list/2. Their checkout facility seems to be down at the moment but is due back up on Sunday their time.

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