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Shostakovich: Symphonies 10 & 15 - Haitink

Shostakovich: Symphonies 10 & 15 - Haitink

Universal (Japan)  UCGD-9123

Stereo Single Layer

Classical - Orchestral


London Philharmonic Orchestra
Bernard Haitink (conductor)

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Comment by Dave Billinge - January 14, 2026 (1 of 2)

This disc contains 100+ minutes of music. One forgets that SHM single layer is not constrained by the CD layer.

Comment by EugenF - January 15, 2026 (2 of 2)

Nobody forgets.
It is about the lack of documentation regarding SACD layout.
Technically, the total playing time of a hybrid SACD's layer is not constrained by the CD's layer.
The sacd layer of a hybrid sacd is the same thing as in the case of a single layer sacd.

Many CEOs of labels did not know that.

Here are the playing time limits for SACD:

Every area (or audio programme) of a sacd (Stereo or M-ch) can have maximum playing time:
255 mins: 59 secs: 74 frames (1 frame = 1/75 second) ***

In real life:

Stereo only area (no DST compression) aprox. 109-110 minutes for a single layer sacd (the limit is disc capacity, see Note);
Stereo only area(DST compression ) = can reach 255 mins: 59 secs: 74 frames in a single layer sacd;
M-ch + stereo = ? (depends on DST compression factor, limit is disc capacity, see Note).

A good example is this hybrid sacd album : Base2 Music 011.
Here the total playing time of a CD layer is very much shorter than the SACD layer.


Note
Sacd disc capacity can be:
a) Single layer 4,38 GB (DVD-5, single side, single layer), Hybrid sacds have also the capacity of single layer;
b) Dual layer 7.95 GB (DVD-9, single side, dual layer).
***The limit is due to the use of 8-bit counters for each audioframe's time field (0-255), not disc capacity.